Wikipedia:Tzilleri/Archìviu 2024

(New) Feature on Kartographer: Adding geopoints via QID

Since September 2022, it is possible to create geopoints using a QID. Many wiki contributors have asked for this feature, but it is not being used much. Therefore, we would like to remind you about it. More information can be found on the project page. If you have any comments, please let us know on the talk page. – Best regards, the team of Technical Wishes at Wikimedia Deutschland

Thereza Mengs (WMDE) 13:31, 13 Nad 2023 (CET)

Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.

Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form.
Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.

The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.

For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview.
We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Artìculu de su mese pro Ghennàrgiu

Salude a totus. Ocannu mi so pigadu una pàusa de una paja de dies e duncas lu so pedende petzi como, ma ite artìculu bolides pònnere pro custu mese? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:19, 7 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Saludi. Deu propòngiu de fai che in is duus gennaxus passaus e ponni s'artìculu de s'annu passau --PNNu (cuntierra) 22:49, 8 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Salludi e annu nou bonu a totus. Po mei andat beni sa proposta de @PNNu. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 19:36, 9 Ghe 2024 (CET)

AB, gràtzias medas a ambos! E augùrios! L2212 (cuntierra) 22:33, 12 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder?

Apologies for writing in English.

The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.

• The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
• Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
• Compensation is available.
• Sessions will be held in January and February.
• Sign up here if you are interested.
• Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.

We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)

Feminism and Folklore 2024

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Dear Wiki Community,

You are humbly invited to organize the Feminism and Folklore 2024 writing competition from February 1, 2023, to March 31, 2023 on your local Wikipedia. This year, Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's issues, and gender-focused topics for the project, with a Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus and a folk culture theme on Wikipedia.

You can help Wikipedia's coverage of folklore from your area by writing or improving articles about things like folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer folklore figures, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales, and more. Users can help create new articles, expand or translate from a generated list of suggested articles.

Organisers are requested to work on the following action items to sign up their communities for the project:

1. Create a page for the contest on the local wiki.
2. Set up a campaign on CampWiz tool.
3. Create the local list and mention the timeline and local and international prizes.
4. Request local admins for site notice.
5. Link the local page and the CampWiz link on the meta project page.

This year, the Wiki Loves Folklore Tech Team has introduced two new tools to enhance support for the campaign. These tools include the Article List Generator by Topic and CampWiz. The Article List Generator by Topic enables users to identify articles on the English Wikipedia that are not present in their native language Wikipedia. Users can customize their selection criteria, and the tool will present a table showcasing the missing articles along with suggested titles. Additionally, users have the option to download the list in both CSV and wikitable formats. Notably, the CampWiz tool will be employed for the project for the first time, empowering users to effectively host the project with a jury. Both tools are now available for use in the campaign. Click here to access these tools

Learn more about the contest and prizes on our project page. Feel free to contact us on our meta talk page or by email us if you need any assistance.

We look forward to your immense coordination.

Thank you and Best wishes,

Feminism and Folklore 2024 International Team

Stay connected  

--MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 08:26, 18 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Wiki Loves Folklore is back!

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Dear Wiki Community, You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 31st of March.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.

Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

-- MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 08:26, 18 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to announce that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 19:08, 19 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Proposta: arrègulas ortogràficas de basi

Saludi a totus. Est de diora chi ddu seu pensendi e mi decidu a fai custa proposta imoi chi (po sorti) megat de arribai prus genti chi collàborat a sa stèrrida de is artìculus. Sa premissa est chi NO seu chistionendi de impreai unu standard sceti po is artìculus, ni de àteras propostas de norma, chi est un'argumentu distintu e giai tocau prus e prus bortas. Sa proposta mia est de sceberai unas cantu arrègulas ortogràficas comunas a totu is propostas de norma de su sardu de is ùrtimus 20 annus e prus, a manera chi fatzat a assentai unu mìnimu s'anarchia ortogràfica chi agataus pruschetotu me is artìculus bècius. Custas arrègulas s'iant a podi arregolli in una pàgina dedicada. Esemprus funt:

• Dòpias: sceti is cunsonantis in LaNa SaRDa de Babbu e Mama;
• Acentu: si scriit sceti candu no arruit in sa segunda vocali contada de sa fini de su fueddu. Es.: autònomu, rùere (o definitzioni prus formali!);
• Paragògicas: su plurali acabat sèmpiri cun S, sa de tres personas de is verbus in T;
• su grafema DH bolit cunsiderau proposta bècia e cambiau cun su prus simpri DD;
• idem po K o QU in logu de CH;
• evitai latinismus tipu "issu hat" o sa congiuntzioni "et";
• etc etc.

Ita ndi narais? Creu chi mancai chena ponni buca in sa chistioni cumplicada de su standard (e difatis seu scriendi in norma campidanesa), siat beni lìcitu a tenni unu manuali stilìsticu nosu puru. Tzèrriu a @L2212 e @Mattafalluga, ma s'arraxonu est abertu a totus. --PNNu (cuntierra) 15:19, 21 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Salude PNNu, deo so de acordu cun tie, e as fatu bene meda a abèrrere custa arresonada ca penso chi, pro evitare problemas prus a tardu, siat tempus de istabilire custas reguleddas e, comente as iscritu tue, de las pònnere in una pàgina dedicada in ue chie si siat chi bògiat contribuire las potzat atzapare chene problemas (mancari fintzas gràtzias a unu ligàmene in sa pàgina printzipale). Sas règulas chi as postu andant bene, e a parre meu nos podimus fintzas basare subra de sos critèrios ortogràficos de sa limba sarda pro su tzertificadu C1 de sa Regione e de sas règulas de su Prèmiu Otieri pro nde annànghere àteras. L2212 (cuntierra) 21:11, 21 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Saludi @PNNu. In lìnia de printzìpiu seu de acòrdiu cun sa proposta tua. In is ùrtimus deghi annus eus giau a sc.wikipedia una diretzioni crara e creu chi - cun totu is lìmitis acapiaus a s'essi aici pagus e a su discoidu de is istitutzionis - seus arrannèscius a ddi giai unu pagu de istrutura. Comenti tui as nau, abbarrant artìculus medas, susetotus intra de is prus bècius, chi non sighint una forma ortogràfica pretzisa (e deu ia aciunghi fintzas is chi portant fueddus in italianu ischetu). Chi chereus fai un'atru giampu de calidadi, si depeus incurai fintzas de assentai cussus. De s'atru cantoni, a ponni manu a sus de is ortografias de artìculus giai fatus, parit sèmpiri chi seus fendi pecau...

Po sa chistioni de is dòpias, de is paragògicas, de is acentus m'agatas totu de acòrdiu. Su de ch, qu, k est giai unu pagu prus complicau, ca s'agatant propostas vàrias (po esempru innoghi). Su de is latinismus est unu pagu datau però a su mancu sighit una càncua règula, aici comenti s'usu de dh intamas de dd (s'agatant artìculus intrenus cun cussas ortografias, e chi m'arragodu beni no funt mancu mali iscritus). In antis de ddus mudai mi dd'ia a pentzai cun coidau. A bi ita narant is atrus. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 21:12, 21 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Gràtzias a ambus po s'interventu. Po cantu pertocat is documentus chi at propostu @L2212, is critèrius po su C1 funt bastanti mujaditus, duncas creu chi fatzat a pigai meda de inguni, ma mi lassat spantau chi acetint sa dòpia G, passendi duncas a s'arrègula de "LaNa SaRDa de Babbu, Mama e Giaja" - tra pagu nd'arribat totu sa famìlia. Mi parit unu sceberu in contra-tendèntzia (is Arrègulas funt fintzas prus restritivas de sa LSC, cun "LaNa SaRDa" ebbia + sa B in pagus fueddus) ma fait sèmpiri a ndi chisionai. Si no mi sbàlliu ddoi fiat fintzas in sa LdM. Me is arrègulas de su Prèmiu Otieri agataus unu piessìnniu de interessu po su logudoresu, s'arruta de sa T de sa de tres personas chi agataus in scritus traditzionalis e fintzas in sa proposta de sa dòpia norma de s'Acadèmia de su sardu. Iat a podi abarrai a sceberu de chini scriit in logudoresu normau.

Po cantu pertocat is cumentus de @Mattafalluga, si su DH dd'impreant ancora in medas s'iat a podi permiti ma mancai scunsillai, giai chi no at tentu unu cunsideru mannu de parti de espertus e linguistas. Sa proposta de Bolognesi est de grandu interessu in sa dibata, ma mi parit chi K e QU apant tentu fintzas prus pagu cunsideru de su DH. In custu momentu creu chi fatzant sceti su testu prus cumplicau de ligi.

Speru chi calincunu de is cuntribudoris bècius e nous bolant pigai parti a s'arraxonu. Giai chi funt critèrius po sa comunidadi iat a essi pretzisu a tenni una partetzipatzioni prus manna. M'iat a praxi a preparai un'abbotzu de pàgina, ma no nc'est pressi. Abetaus àterus cumentus! --PNNu (cuntierra) 08:57, 23 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Salude torra, bidende chi paret chi perunu àteru impitadore bògiat intervènnere, sighimus intre nois. No aia notadu sa chistione de sa "g" (depo nàrrere chi no isco nemmancu proite nche l'apant posta, cussu paràgrafu non l'aia letu bene ca l'aia dadu pro iscontadu), ma so de acordu cun @PNNu, non mi paret su casu de l'annànghere a sas àteras lìteras dòpias, sende chi sas àteras propostas non l'impreant mai. Sas chistiones de sa t in sas tres persones optzionale pro su logudoresu si podet agiùnghere fintzas pro mene. Torrende a su chi at iscritu @Mattafalluga, imbetzes, pro sa K, su QU e su DH penso fintzas deo chi diamus pòdere pigare in cunsideru s'impreu de custas propostas, pro pigare una detzisione. Fintzas si las ant propònnidas persones cualificadas (Bolognesi pro sa K e su QU e penso Mario Puddu pro su DH? No isco si est cosa chi at creadu issu o si l'at adotada a pustis) b'at àpidu gente meda chi as isseberadu de las impreare e chi galu lu faghet? In LdM Puddu at fatu cosa meda, ma mi paret chi b'iscriat issu ebbia, e dae su chi apo bidu nemmancu Bolognesi iscriet cun sa proposta sua. E fintzas pro sos latinismos est una situatzione sìmile, sende chi gràtzias a su prèmiu Otieri e a totu sas propostas de normas essidas a campu finas a oe non penso chi siant prus in medas chi los impreent galu. S'importàntzia de s'impreu de règulas ortogràficas a sa fine est sa de uniformare unu pagu s'iscritura, si ponimus tropu propostas personales diat pòdere èssere su matessi che a lassare totu coment'est, sende chi a bortas sunt diferentes meda. L2212 (cuntierra) 00:53, 28 Ghe 2024 (CET)

S'ùrtimu artìculu publicadu si ponit luegus a in antis de su problema. Comenti dd'arresolveus pro esempru custu? Po unu cantoni seu po s'organizai cun una grafia su prus sistemàtica chi si potzat, po s'atru cantoni s'arriscu est chi nd'istesiaus unus cantus possìbilis contribudoris chi non si cunformant cun is règluas propostas. S'agat unu istandard de nugoresu? @Manuelsardu si podis narri e comenti dda pentzas tui? Cricheus de communicai po pragheri. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 12:34, 29 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Sinnalu, in contu de su nugoresu, su traballu de s'ofìtziu linguìsticu de sa tzitadi de Nùgoro. Issus impreant siat sa LSC siat su nugoresu scritu normau, chi iat a essi cunformi a is puntus chi apu propostu deu, a foras de s'acabu in T de sa de tres personas plurali, chi eus giai propostu de lassai comenti a ecetzioni po su logudoresu (e a cantu parit balit po su nugoresu puru). --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:56, 29 Ghe 2024 (CET)

su sardu in zenerale no hat et non bi hat ad tenner aliqandho una iscritura istandhard, ego iscribo su nugoresu in sas pazinas qi iscribo cun sa siqida de sa etimolozia latina et cun sas literas qi si qerent iscritas, in sardu bi hat sa d cacuminale su th, literas meda qi in italyanu non bi hant. Est una tontesa iscriber su sardu in LSC, LSC est italyanu tortu, su nugoresu meda mancu. Ite depo iscriber munddu sicundhu tene? Est meda plus simple iscriber cun sas literas qi pronuntzyas. Unu istranzu si leghet mundu et bider, pessat qi si leghent in sa matessi manera. Si tue iscribes mundhu et bider issu cumprendhet, su sardu est una limba etimolozica cha su frantzesu et non cha su italyanu, qie non bi lu cumprendhet et faket finta de esser tzurpu, est petzi finghendhe et sa beridade abarrat, ego no hapo ad iscriber su sardu in wikipedia cun iscrituras italyana por faker parrer sa limba mea unu dyaletu italyanu, su sardu in sa historya no hat aliqandho yutu regulas cun sentiu in sa iscritura, bastat aperrer sa conca pro cumprendher @Mattafalluga Manuelsardu (cuntierra) 09:57, 30 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Saludi @Manuelsardu e gràtzias ca as arraspostu. Po ti narri sa beridadi, deu non pòngiu sa limba mia in cumparàntzia cun s'italianu, nd'at atras medas chi tenint is grafias issoru prus o mancu simbillantis intra issas e issas, e ddas isvilupant a tenora de comenti cherint is linguistas chi ddas istùdiant, chentza de si mesurai cun is atrus. Ma deu mancu ti cheru cumbinchi ca sa LSC o un'atera forma ortogràfica est bella o mala, custus parris mi ddus tèngiu po mei, ca poita sc.wikipedia no est unu blog, est una comunidadi in ue ddu ant règulas e mitzas e tzitatziones chi cuncunu at iscritu e chi sa comunidadi àplicat, a bortas in automàticu, e a bortas chistionendi·ndi. Chi fadeus unu traballu sèriu, sendi ca traballaus imparis, depeus fintzas arraxonai e detzidi imparis de poita isceberaus de fai su chi fadeus. Mi parit de cumprendi ca tui non ses de acòrdiu e ca creis ca su chi fais tui est su prus giustu. Andat beni.

@PNNu gràtzias meda. Chi detzideus de sighì cun su de chi seus alleghendi, ddu podeus usai po fai is lìnias-ghia e totu su restu. Deu ia cricai de si mantenni su prus abertus pòssibili a atras grafias propostas, però, comenti giai apu nau, sa bidea tua mi parit bona. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 11:42, 30 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Saludi a totus e gràtzias a @Manuelsardu fintzas de parti mia po s'interventu.

Comenti apu giai nau in s'incumentzu s'idea no est a impreai unu standard, ca custa est totu un'àtera chistioni chi no bollu torrai a aberri. Duncas sa LSC dda podeus lassai a foras de s'arraxonu, a parti mancai su fatu chi unus cantu sceberus chi cuntenit si funt spainaus fintzas in àteras propostas de norma scrita. S'idea mia est sa de portai unu mìnimu de uniformidadi in sa scritura, a manera chi si potzat ligi sa Wikipedia sarda prus a discansu.

Po impreai s'esempru chi as fatu tui, certu chi no depis scriri munddu (craru: su de cuàturu puntus chi apu scritu in s'incumentzu bolit integrau, che totu is àterus) ma creu chi mundu siat un'ortografia meda prus discansosa de mundhu, e su pròpiu podeus nai po italianu in logu de italyanu, cunsiderau chi is sardus oramai funt abituaus a ligi in una certa manera. Custu no fait de su sardu unu dialetu de s'italianu. Su sardu sighit tenendi is arrègulas suas chi funt diferentis meda de is de s'italianu, fintzas si sa grafia dd'assimbillat unu pagu, comenti megàt de nai @Mattafalluga. Deu puru apu castiau àteras propostas cun interessu, po esempru creu chi unus cantu sceberus de sa Grafia sarda polifonètica e una pariga de propostas de Bolognesi s'iant a depi pigai in cunsideru, ma su status quo est un'àteru.

Seus innoi po nd'arraxonai totus impari, cun calma e in manera amistosa, comenti si fait in calisisiat comunidadi, duncas mancai ia a evitai fràsias che "bastat aperrer sa conca pro cumprendher", ca no agiudant in custu. Nau custu, si sa proposta mia fait prus dannu chi no benefìtziu seu prontu a lassai perdi in calisisiat momentu. No bollu creai brigas noas, ni bollu chi autoris si-nci fuant po custu. Iat a podi abarrai comenti a lìnia-ghia chena nisciunu òbligu de ddas impreai, ma a custu puntu tantu balit.. -- PNNu (cuntierra) 17:54, 30 Ghe 2024 (CET)

ego naro sa beridade si ti paret corretu mundu ti ses finghendhe tzurpu. Su fabedhu mundhu hat sa d cacuminale non sa d. Et iscriber italianu est ad iscriber ad sa manera italyana, su sardu siqit su latinu et bisonzat una litera pro iscriber sa /j/ mi paret cacada bier zente iscriber "eja" peroe pustis "italianu" ite impreas tandho sas literas qandho ndhe has gana? Ot iscribimus eia italianu aio ot iscribimus eja italjanu ajo ot iscribimus eya italyanu ayo. Faker totus ad mishya-pare mi paret analfabetismu. Si aliqis qeret ad ponner unu istandhard de mantenner in hoke, est tempus perdyu si isto in hoke ad isplicare kene qi cumprendhezas. No est sa beridade qi est esser tzurpu si iscribes SONOS IRBALLAOS ISKINDHE QI BI SUNT ATEROS PLUS CURRETOS? Ite ndhe pessas de su "th" fabedhos qomente "petha, kitho" hant baryantes cun th t tz, sa baryedade plus atinqa est th, iscribendhe petza andhas ad pithus de problemas de iscritura mannos cun fabedhos ateros. Unu pitzocu de sa comunidade mi hat clambau unu articulu clambandhe th cun tz et mi paret tontesa MANNA. Ego ponzo in pare sardu et italyanu in su mamentu ube tanyele mi fabedhat de ABBA ot MUNDU. Si qustu seret istau italyanu si podiat fabedhare de abba et mundu, paret plus simple impleare sa matessi litera pro medas sonos et gosi sa zente non qi non bi fabedhat non podet cumprendher sa pronuntzya zusta? Adheretura iscriber abba est makighine. Abba hat sa b interbocalica non sa b forte. Est qomente iscriber libbero imbetzes de libero in italyanu, cumprendhes su qi qeryo narrer? Ego iscurtho totus, non bi iscurthos si aliqis non bi iscurthat ad mimi ot si non bi qeret cumprendher qusta qistyone, fingher de non cumprendher questu est sa insimia pro sa qale su sardu 50 annos qi benint non bi lu hat ad fabedhare plus NEMOS et ad lu iscriber NEMOS. Su sardu est postu ad su planu de su italyanu, est sa beridade, si sa beridades bos dolet siqie iscribendhe articulos in LSC in wikipedia, qandho sa zente hat ad legher, hat ad pessare ad su italyanu, su sardu non bi lu iskit iscriber plus nemos et su qi hat ad sutzeder est su problemas plus mannu et malu qi amus ad haer. Manuelsardu (cuntierra) 19:10, 30 Ghe 2024 (CET)

E drìnghili cun custu "tzurpu". Bollu marcai chi deu mancai pensendi-dda in manera diferenti no mi seu mai permìtiu de nai a nemus chi fiat tzurpu o chi fiat fingendi de no cumprendi.

Ma fessi tzurpu deu iat a essi puru pagu s'arrori, giai chi deu seu un'autori, no unu linguìsta, duncas mi lìmitu a mi fidai de arrègulas chi at fatu genti prus esperta de mei e chi a foras de innoi (e a foras de s'opinioni mia) s'impreant dònnia dii. Fintzas Massimo Pittau, po arremonai a unu linguista de importu, candu at postu manu a sa grammàtica de Spano nd'at bogau is latinismus chi impreàt issu. No creu chi custu siat unu perìgulu po su sardu: iat a essi bellu a ghetai sa nexi de sa situatzioni sua a sa manera de scriri, ma timu chi sa chistioni siat prus cumplicada de aici.

Arrespundu sceti a sa chistioni de su TH: deu no dd'apu arremonau, ca sciu chi esistit in su scritu logudoresu comenti esistit sa X in campidanesu, duncas no tèngiu nudda in contras. In contu de su DH s'est espressau fintzas Roberto Bolognesi (linguista primorosu, dd'arregordaus), narendi chi no serbit, ma deu apu giai propostu de dd'acetai, mancai scunsiliendi-ddu.

Comentisisiat, su puntu de vista mia dd'apu espressau e apu cumprèndiu fintzas su tuu. Abetu s'interventu de àterus autoris -- PNNu (cuntierra) 21:53, 30 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Salude @Manuelsardu, e gràtzias pro sos interventos tuos, ma as iscritu una paja de cosas chi non sunt beras. In antis de totu, nàrrere chi su sardu no apat mai tentu règulas est a non pigare in cunsideru sa parte manna de su chi ant iscritu sos autores nostros de importu prus mannu dae s'edade de mesu a oe. Su "sardu illustre" (chi ant istudiadu paritzos istudiosos, Massimo Pittau intre sos àteros) l'ant impreadu in medas pro sèculos, e finas a sas ùrtimas propostas de ortografia fiat sa norma prus impreada. Su Prèmiu Otieri est dae sos annos '70 chi at publicadu sos inditos suos (basados subra de cussa) chi ant adotadu chentinas de poetas, e como sas normas de base impreadas dae sa Regione, chi sighint semper in cuss'àndala, sunt netzessàrias pro pigare su tzertificadu C1 e fàghere su mastru de limba sarda in sas iscolas nostras. E in prus bi sunt sos istandards che a sa LSC (ufitziale pro sos atos de sa RAS, chi est s'autoridade polìtica prus manna chi tenimus) sas Arrègulas e fintzas sas normas locales che a sa de s'Ufìtziu de Nùgoro (gràtzias @PNNu pro l'àere posta, mi nde fia ismentigadu, so de acordu cun tie e @Mattafalluga pro pigare a esèmpiu fintzas cussa). Totu custas normas sighint cunventziones ortogràficas chi non sunt "italianas" ma sardas dae meda, chi ant tentu e tenent ufitzialidade e ispainadura de impreu e chi non b'at motivu de non sighire oe. Bastat a pompiare comente ant iscritu sos poetas e sos romanzieris prus mannos de s'istòria nostra, pro dimostrare chi in dies de oe a andare a sighire una limba etimologica chi no esistit non tenet sensu perunu. In cada manera, comente t'at giai iscritu @PNNu, semus inoghe pro arresonare e traballare in manera tzivile, duncas dae cara e no imprees ingiùlios e cosas gasi, ca non serbint a nudda e faghent petzi dannu. Inoghe non semus in Facebook o in carchi àtera retza sotziale, mancu male, e custas sunt règulas chi totu cantos depimus rispetare.L2212 (cuntierra) 21:30, 31 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Sende chi est coladu belle unu mese chene àteros interventos, penso chi podimus serrare sa dibata. Tenimus tres votos a favore pro aprovare una lista de reguleddas de base, como tocat a isseberare ite pònnere e ite nono. @PNNu @Mattafalluga a parre meu diat andare bene a pònnere sos puntos chi at iscritu PNNu in su primu cummentu suo e s'arruta de sa "t" comente possibilidade pro su logudoresu, pro sas resones chi apo giai iscritu, bois preferides annànghere àteras possibilidades (de iscunsigiare o nono)?--L2212 (cuntierra) 23:30, 27 Fre 2024 (CET)

Apu giai preparau una botza cun is puntus originalis modificaus impreendi is cunsiderus chi funt bessius de custu arraxonu, un'introdutzioni e una pariga de cosas chi mi funt pigadas a conca. Si arrannèsciu dda pùblicu oi in sa sandbox e podeus sighi a nd'arraxonai. -- PNNu (cuntierra) 08:00, 28 Fre 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias. L2212 (cuntierra) 20:13, 29 Fre 2024 (CET)

Apo lèghidu cun interessu mannu custa cuntierra e, iscriende deo etotu in limba sarda comuna, non potzo èssere prus de acordu cun s'impitu de sas règulas de ortografia de sa lsc (lana sarda babbu mama, ebbia, sena giajos e giajas chi tantu rispetamus, ma comente amus nadu semus fatende grefa). Deo dia nàrrere puru chi andat bene a pònnere conca a sa règulas de su Prèmiu de Otieri (apostrofu etotu a cumintzu de paràula, mancari non pro sa lsc ma pro sas bariedades si si cheret impreare); nointames non cumbèngio cun sa "arruta" de sa "t", nessi in su logudoresu e nugoresu, ca umpare a "z" e carchi àtera cosa sunt su motivu prus mannu, deo creo, proite carchi unu prefèrgiat iscriere in cussas bariedades. Penso peroe chi devimus tènnere contu fena de sas bariedades chi mancu sunt leadas in cunsideru: ite template variant impreo si deo iscrio "andhandho" (Mesania) imbetzes, pro nàrrere, de andende, annende o ite si siat? Opuru si deo, comente narat s'àteru impitadore, Manuelsardu, non resesso a rapresentare su faeddu meu, peri prus pagu impreadu, cun sas bariedades chi giai s'impitant (in wikipedia)? Deo non so tropu de acordu cun s'iscriere "qi" o "ki" in logu de "chi" (mancu fatende torrare a biu paràulas betzas ma bellas meda comente a "alikis" o "aliqando", chi deo dia iscriere "alichis" e "alicando" sena tropu problema), ma subra de su "dh" nde podimus arrejonare. In ultres, su "th": est una richesa manna de su sardu (cando est su sonu gregu o inglesu de su matessi "th" chi agatamus in "thilipirche"). Deo cumprendo tzertos "murrùngios": cando deo iscrio "custu" lego "custhu" cun sonu aspriradu chi essit dae s'ala dereta o manca de buca. Apo sa fortuna chi est meda regulare, difatis comente sutzedit cun àteras aunidas de cunsonantes: sc (iscola, ischola), lc (calchi), rc (surcu, surchu), si lèghent totu in sa matessi manera (sìmile cun sardu/sardhu, disgiuntu chi lego "dixuntu/dijuntu") . Diferente est cun t, tz, th... In summa, a bisu meu si diat pòdere faeddare de "no alliniados": podimus, e custa est una avantzada mea, tènnere (e in antis b'arrejonare subra) règulas a cumone prus pagu istrintas possìbile (e leadas dae lsc e prèmiu Otieri, ca penso chi in cue bi siant espressadas cumpretèntzias e esperièntzia manna) e dassare su restu a sos impitadores: b'amus a tènnere gasi zente chi, leghende sas règulas at andare a impitare una tzerta bariedade cun template sou (lsc, log, cam, nug) e calicun'àteru (sa minoria? semper manos e pòddighes utilosos pro ispainare su progetu de Bichipèdia e sa sabidoria sarda) chi at mancari, e custa repito chi est sa proposta mea, at a impreare unu template diferente, afatente pro cussos chi non sighint sa bariedades subra fentomadas (e b'at a èssere mancari zente chi iscriet comente amus bidu "alikis" o "aliqis" e cosas gasi. De asserva, ca no lu podimus transire, est sa betze cumpetèntzia chi bi servit pro iscriere puru in cussa manera). Duncas, deo penso chi agatende regulas comunas de base, podimus dassare totus iscriere comente cherent a patu chi si sigant cussas normas fundamentales: s'importante est àere sos trastes ladinos, craros pro cumprendere si carchi cosa chi leghimus est curretu o mancu (e la podimus arrangiare) e, de cunsighèntzia, ischire si su chi apo a insertare in un'artìculu at a èssere burradu o mancu pro giusta resone. (Isco chi sa cuntierra est serrada, o gasi apo cumpresu deo, ma cheria intervènnere su matessi, sende deo intradu in Bichipèdia in finitia de martzu e no aende àpidu sa possibilidade de lèghere in tempus custa dibata. In ultres, apo bidu sa "sandbox", sa pàgina de proa... non b'at nudda e, mi pregunto, in ue est sighende custu bellu arrejonu?) Astore grogu (cuntierra) 18:23, 4 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Saludi, @Astore grogu, e gràtzias po giai su parri tuu, chi as fatu beni a espressai. A dolu mannu no m'at fatu su tempus po publicai sa botza chi tèngiu pronta e in custas diis seu a foras de domu. Sa cida chi benit apu a torrai e dd'apu a publicai, aici mi narais ita si-ndi parit e faeus is càmbius chi serbint.

A sa chistioni de su template po is bariedadis de mesania apu pensau deu puru càncua borta e si-ndi podit arraxonai a parti si serbit (nisciunu de is impitadoris ativus scriit de aici in custu perìodu) e sa faina est cumplicada ca est difìcili a nai cali biddas funt de mesania e si duus impitadoris de biddas diferentis de mesania bolint traballai a su pròpiu artìculu. Creu chi po imoi artìculus chi no incàsciant in una "macrobariedadi", si fait a ddi nai de aici, no tenint nisciunu template. Est sèmpiri su pròpiu problema de ponni de acòrdiu centu concas e centu barritas! -- PNNu (cuntierra) 18:54, 4 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Seu de acòrdiu, beni meda. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 22:32, 1 Mar 2024 (CET)

Annango custa imbasciada a s'ùrtimu cummentu pro fàghere ordine e tzèrrio a sos àteros (@L2212 @PNNu). Cuncordende a subra de sos latinismos subra mentovados (de furriare) bos cheria pònnere paris cun su pensamentu meu postu fintzas in sa pàgina mea de usuàriu (est su pensu meu e at a abbàrrare a mancu de sas règulas chi ant a èssire a campu, puru si mi nde dia su matessi cunformare) segundu cale intre Lsc e àteras bariedades de majoria (logudoresu, nugoresu, campidanesu), est pretzisu impreare pagas règulas, ma bonas:

• sas lìteras sardas sunt a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, l, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, x, z. Non si impreant k, q, w, y si nono pro paràulas angenas, francu non bi siat una traduida o no las si potzant adatare. S'impitu de su sardu est tantu ispainadu cantu est mannu s'impitu de cussas lìteras e cantas sunt sas cumbinatziones variadas issoro, ma fintzas cunforma a sos puntos chi sighint;
• s'adopiant petzi sas cunsonantes de sa frase "lana sarda de babbu e de mama" (LNSRDBM);
• s'atzentu, grae, si ponet semper cando sa pronùntzia non ruet in sa de duos ùrtimas sìllabas (nàrrere, mandigare, tribù);
• sas de tres persones singulares e plurales impreant semper sa "t" in finitia (est, sunt, at, ant, cantat, cantant, finit, finint);
• sa paragògica non si iscriet mai pustis de sa "s" e de sa "t" (paràula, paràulas, est, imparat, narant);
• sas cunsonantes a incumintzu de paràula chi ruent in sa pronùntzia s'iscrient semper in Lsc. In sas àteras bariedades si dassant o mancu a seberu de chie iscriet e, in casu non bèngiant postas, in logu de cussas lìteras si impreat s'apostrofu (bènnere, 'ènnere).

Pro su restu, sa Lsc tenet règulas in piessignu cunforma a sos liniamentos frunidos dae sa Regione e sas ainas che a su Glossàriu e su Cros. Sas àteras bariedades sighint sa moda issoro prus o mancu cumpartzida, semper in rispetu de sas ses normas fundamentales de custa lista.

Si devent reconnòschere bariedades de minoria finas a como prus pagu cunsideradas: mesania, thiniscolesu e àteras bariedades linguìsticas o gràficas. Cussas ebbia podent usare, semper cunforma a su connotu e sena si cunfundere una cun s'àtera comente pro cada bariedade, sos piessignos issoro: "dh", "th" e àteros pretzisos. Si devent cunsiderare cussas modas parìviles a sa "x" campidanesa o a sa "j" logudoresa. Abbarrant firmos sos ses printzìpios ditados dae sa lista.

Chie iscriet est lìeru de agiuare sa cultura sarda iscrita comente mègius creet, nos cumprendimus su matessi e ischimus totus comente nos intendimus cando nos narant chi "nois li namus gosi" (non meda diferente dae bìdere un'artìculu, o ala de su cuntènnidu suo, iscritu in una bariedade èssere cambiadu in un'àtera): su tempus at a giuigare subra de sa calidade de cantu iscritu cunforma a sa resessida, est a nàrrere sos letores tentos e sos àteros autores chi impitant su matessi iscriòngiu.

In sa Wikipedia sarda diamus dèvere tènnere categorias pro Limba Sarda Comuna, Logudoresu, Nugoresu, Campidanesu e un'ùrtima cun su nùmene de "Àtera bariedade" o simigiantes. In su momentu in ue una bariedade si imponet cunfrontu a sas àteras in mesu de sos artìculos in "Àtera bariedade" cheret nàrrere chi siat pro amparare cussas bariedades como in segundu pranu siat pro reconnòschere su nùmeru artu de impitadores in cudda bariedade in piessignu at a èssere pesada un'àtera categoria dedicada a sa bariedade in chistione, chi si diat annànghere a cussas subra mentovadas (Limba Sarda Comuna, Logudoresu, Nugoresu, Campidanesu, Àtera bariedade prus cussa chi si nche est dislindada dae s'ùrtima).

Ispero in su contributu de àteros impitadores puru e fintzas chi custu traballu meu potzat agiuare. Astore grogu (cuntierra) 15:08, 8 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Salude @Astore grogu, ti torro gràtzias fintzas deo pro su contributu tuo. Oe non resesso, ma apo a chircare de rispondere cras a su chi as iscritu. L2212 (cuntierra) 23:41, 8 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Duncas, a parre meu su problema de sas àteras variedades est chi penso chi a creare categorias e templates a banda pro cada una diat pòdere creare meda prus problemas de cantu non diat agiudare a iscrìere a sa gente. Giai como, cun sas categorias chi tenimus, est difìtzile gestire sas pàginas chi tenent duas o prus grafias a intro.

A es. si una pàgina est iscrita mesu in campidanesu e mesu in logudoresu, e unu nd'iscriet una versione prus manna in nugoresu e cussa divenit sa printzipale, in ue nche la ponimus s'àtera? In Artìculu/campidanesu o in Artìculu/logudoresu? Finas a como s'ùnica solutzione (no ufitziale, apo petzi chircadu de fàghere gasi cando m'est capitadu e gasi mi paret fintzas sos àteros) est istada sa de fàghere duas versiones, adatende totu in campidanesu in una e totu in logudoresu in s'àtera. Ma est una cosa chi podet devènnere unu traballu mannu, si s'artìculu est longu o sunt medas, e s'in casu b'esserent 7 o 8 categorias sa cosa diat pòdere peorare galu de prus.

In prus, diamus dèpere isseberare sos critèrios pro cunsiderare una variante/grafia comente vàlida pro tènnere una categoria sua o nono.

Naramus chi inoghe "logudoresu", "campidanesu" e "nugoresu" sunt semper istadas categorias mesu de grafia e mesu geogràficas, a nàrrere sa veridade, ca finas a como no amus mai postu règulas tropu ligadas a una proposta pretzisa (che a sas arrègulas o àteru) e, pro fàghere un'esèmpiu, b'at cosa sinnada comente "logudoresu" chi est iscrita cun una variedade locale, che a Tenore de Vitzi "Mialinu Pira" chi mi paret iscritu in bitzichesu. Fortzis diamus dèpere pònnere "nugoresu", pro sos limbàgios de cussa zona? Sos artìculos de Manuelsardu, fintzas iscriende cun sas règulas chi semus ponende, non mi parent fatos impreende limbàgiu de Nùgoro, ma mancari est s'ùnicu casu e pro su restu sos àteros artìculos sunt pròpiu in nugoresu e diat èssere mègius a los lassare gasi. No isco ite nde pensades bois.

Diamus pòdere lassare sas categorias chi bi sunt comente macro-categorias de grafias (francu sa LSC, craru) e sinnalare sa variedade ispetzìfica cun unu segundu template segundàriu, ma torramus a su contu, si diat dèpere rispetare fintzas cussu? Est a nàrrere, si deo arribbo a una pàgina in logudoresu e bògio iscrìere in LSC depo annànghere unu template o creare un'àtera versione de sa pàgina (non potzo mudare sa grafia de su chi b'at), ma dia dèpere fàghere sa matessi cosa si sa pàgina est iscrita in thiniscolesu e deo bògio iscrìere in bitzichesu? Mi paret esageradu.

Pro como a su nessi penso chi sas categorias potzant andare bene gasi, e fortzis s'ùnica chi diat pòdere serbire diat èssere sa pro su sardu de sas biddas de mesania, ma sende chi finas a como bi sunt istadu pagu casos, e fiant sìmile meda a sa LSC, diat èssere gasi malu a impreare cussa norma? Pro Ortueri e Meana amus fatu gasi, ma est beru chi bi fiat una situatzione particulare e no amus fatu de seguru un'arresonu generale. Isco chi diat èssere un'issèberu difìtzile e cumplicadu.

Pro su chi pertocat su th, mancari cussu diat andare bene, ca mi paret chi in unas cantas biddas bi siat diferèntzia intre paràulas chi s'assimìngiant meda ma sunt diferentes petzi ca una tenet su "tz" e s'àtera su "th" (si non mi so faddende), su dh mi paret giai un'àtera situatzione. Est regulare bastante, e s'ùnica proposta chi lu tenet est sa de Màriu Puddu (no apo bidu medas grafias locales cun cussas), chi finas si at fatu semper unu traballu ispantosu a beru e de primore mi paret belle s'ùnicu si non s'ùnicu a beru chi l'impreet.

Podet dare chi mi sia isballiende e siat petzi su chi connosco deo, s'in casu andat bene e l'amus a agiùnghere, ma penso chi siat pro cussu chi in sas reguleddas ortogràficas de sa regione pro su C1 su th l'ant postu in lista e su dh nono. Pro sa chistione de sa ruta de sa "t" no apo cumpresu, @Astore grogu, tue ses de acordu o contra? L2212 (cuntierra) 22:46, 9 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Salude, iscujami si non t'apo a torrare isceda lestru, ma apo a tènnere tempus cras a sero, ca devo galu lèghere sas cuntierras chi m'as imbiadu. Pro como ti potzo nàrrere chi non so de acordu cun sa ruta de sa "t", in lìnia chi dia chèrrere prus abertura de su sardu iscritu inoghe (est giai bastante abertu, ma bidu chi nde semus faeddende mègius est a l'ammentare, naramulu gosi), prus de totu ca deo penso chi non devimus istrìnghere tropu cun sas règulas, ca a bisu meu diat istesiare eventuales àteros impitadores (o impitadores benidores) e giai bido chi a traballare in sos artìculos non semus in meda. Apoi, reconnosco chi, mentres su "th" sinnalat unu sonu diferente, su "dh" sinnalat unu sonu chi b'est, ma simpremente si nche est seberadu de non l'iscrìere. Duncas, andat bene peri a no lu pònnere o, mancari, a non nde faeddare in sas règulas chi amus a istèrrere e mancari cando b'at a èssere zente meda chi l'impreat, tando nd'amus a faeddare torra.

Comuncas, a nos intèndere cras. Astore grogu (cuntierra) 23:16, 9 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Saludi a totus, sa lista mi parit bona, ma tèngiu ancora una duda in contu de su DH. Segurus seus chi siat ligau a normas localis comenti acuntessit cun TH e X? Ca in sa proposta ortogràfica de Puddu dd'agataus po totu is bariedadis, ma comenti dda impreat issu a bisu fait su testu prus difìcili de ligi, cunsiderau chi a impreai cussu grafema est una minoria. Po custu ddu bolia scunsillai, ma si est parti de sa traditzioni nd'arrimu custa idea.

In generali is normas mi parint beni scritas. In sa botza chi ia preparu, si podit interessai, deu nc'est puru un'incipit chi spricat in curtzu su tretu chi s'at portau a scriri una lista de cunsillus po una scritura bona (farta de unu standard beru, sa proposta de LSC e is propostas alternativas, puntus a cumoni intra custas)

Infinis, po cantu pertocat is template de is variedadis tèngiu is pròpius dudas de L2212 e duncas po su momentu no potzu portai propostas cuncretas. --PNNu (cuntierra) 20:58, 10 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Duncas, bona sero a totus. Torro isceda a @L2212 e @PNNu. Apo cumpresu sas resones bogadas a campu in contu de "dh" e de su template "àteras bariedades" (como chi bi penso no lu naraìamus èntula?). Tando si semus de acordu cun su "th" e sos àteros puntos de sa lista (bi devimus annànghere sa relata z-tz ca, dendela pro leada, mi nche so ismentigadu de l'agiùnghere), potzo nàrrere deo etotu nono a "dh" e template "àteras bariedades" e eja a "th" e sos puntos e sa lista: in summa, dia bogare dae s'arrejonu meu su "dh" e sa parte in fatu dae "In sa wikipedia sarda diamus..." a ""...est dislindada dae s'ùrtima", gasi pro sighire a dae in antis cun custa proposta de règulas ortogràficas de base. Si cumbenimus, nos abarrat petzi de isetare ite nde pensant sos àteros (tzèrrio puru a @Mattafalluga). Astore grogu (cuntierra) 22:43, 10 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Saludi, creu chi una cuntierra simbillanti dd'aiaus giai fata una pariga de annus fait (a primìtziu de sa pandèmia, mi parit). In antis de fai càmbius mannus a is arrègulas e a totu cantu, ia castiai chi acudeus cun is intradas chi teneus. Is problemas funt sèmpiri is pròpius: seus pagus, non teneus lìnias-ghia ofitzialis a sus de is grafìas e depus fintzas mantenni unu pagu de creibilidadi in fachi de is àterus usuàrius, in antis de totu de is sardus, chi podint cumprendi e ita e poita iscrieus, in segundu logu in antis de is de atras limbas. Est giai suntzèdiu chi sardus si nchi funt pesaus in contras de su traballu nostu e s'ant postu in "crisi esistentziali" o chi cuncunu - po arrexonis disconnotas - at cricau de si protzessai in is pranus artus, nendi cosas chentz'e sentidu. Fintzas in cussus casus seus dèpius intervenni e giustificai e pretzisai e ita fadeus e poita ddu fadeus.

Usendi is èntulas e basendi·si a sus de is propostas gràficas prus o mancu ofitzialis eus pòtziu fundai su chi fadeus e giai arrespostas cumbinchidoras contra de is disfamadoris. Eus sighiu unu mètodu chi abarrat in pei gràtzias a sa lògica e a sa coerèntzia. Po custu deu abarru de s'idea chi sigheus basendi·si a sus de is propostas chi ant agatau unu pagu de arretumbu a livellu locale e susetotus subra-locale, comenti eus giai allegau in custa cuntierra atotu.

Po su de is allegas de mesania ddu biu bellu che complicau a ddas seberai de is àtras. Is variedadis de mesania sunt una surra, non tenint carateristicas pretzisas e su totali de is biddas chi apartenint a custa categoria andat de su Sinnis fintzas a su golfu de Orosei e pinnicant una parti lada meda de sa Sardigna tzentrali. Totu is biddas chi ndi faint parti capint fintzas in is atrus tres template chi giai teneus, cun pagus etzetzionis (unas cantas ammentuadas de @L2212) chi funt prus complicadas de categorizai e chi funt giai paris a sa LSC. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 10:43, 15 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Saludi a totus. A pustis de unu certu perìodu, apu agatau tu tempu de ponni impari su materiali chi ia arregortu e preparai un'abotzu de sa norma, chi podeis agatai innoi. Apu a torrai a ligi custu arraxonu po m'assegurai de no m'essi scarèsciu nudda e in s'interis totus funt lìberus de proponni calisisiat càmbiu e candu seus prontus, dda podeus publicai in manera ufitziali. --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:37, 27 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Salude, so de acordu cun sas normas de sa pàgina in acàpiu. No in tames, penso manchent duos puntos chi aìamus faeddadu a s'àtera borta: 1) su "th"; 2) comente iscrìere sos faeddos antigòrios chi connoschimus feti non normados.

1) Pro su chi tocat su "th", mi refèrgio a su digramma iscritu pro chi bèngiat rapresentadu unu sonu in piessinnu, che a su "Θ", e no a s'impitu suo pro resones etimològicas ebbia. A potzo deo iscrìere "athethu", "atha", "thucru", "thurpu", "canthone" sene chi unu "pitzocu de sa comunidade" (e tzito craru craru un'impitadore chi at contribuidu a custu arresonu) lu mudet cun su "tz"?

2) In contu de comente iscrìere allegas antigas de su sardu etotu, chèrgio ammentare paràulas che a "alikis", "uske", "ankilla", "kellàriu" e gasi narende. A potzo deo iscrìere custos faeddos "alichis", "usche", "anchilla (anchidda)", "chellàriu", bidu ca "cussigiamus de evitare is grafemas K e QU in logu de CH"?

Chi nono o chi emmo, andat iscritu. Non depet abarrare duda peruna. Deo so firmu in s'idea chi, a primu, depat èssere pòssibile impreare su "th" a intro de sas categorias logudoresu e/o nugoresu e, in fines, chi siant cunsiderados sinònimos de sos faeddos de oe cussos antigos galu non normados (e tando los iscrìere normados cando seberados in s'iscriòngiu). Astore grogu (cuntierra) 17:20, 28 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Salude a totus. Gràtzias meda, @PNNu! So de acordu fintzas deo cun sa lista, e fintzas a parre meu su "th" podet andare bene pro su logudoresu e su nugoresu. Pro su chi pertocat a sas paràulas antigas deo dia nàrrere de las impreare a norma, lassende sa possibilidade (si paret netzessàriu) de las iscrìere in sa manera originale impreende su cursivu, unu pagu comente si faghet cun nùmenes/tìtulos de unas cantas cosas e paràulas istràngias. Ite nde pensades? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:08, 2 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Pro mene, andat bene! Astore grogu (cuntierra) 10:20, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Beni po mei puru. Apu agiuntu custas duas cosas a sa pàgina --PNNu (cuntierra) 12:10, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

@PNNu gràtzias torra! Su puntu pro su sas chistiones de su th e de sa x andat bene, ma s'àteru lu dia iscrìere in un'àtera manera, pro pònnere in craru su chi bolimus nàrrere. E fintzas ca penso chi sos topònimos e sas àteras paràulas siant duas situatziones unu pagu diferentes, e fortzis li bisòngiant règulas diferentes. Si seis de acordu, fia pensende a una cosa a tipu:

"Pro sos topònimos si podet iscrìere a norma, ma custa si podet fintzas inniorare. Pro àteros faeddos chi tenent una forma iscrita traditzionale documentada (a es. alikis, uske, ankilla, kellàriu) si cussìgiat de iscrìere a norma, ma si podet fintzas impreare sa forma traditzionale, si serbit, isciende·la in cursivu ." L2212 (cuntierra) 21:18, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Gràtzias @L2212, deo so de acordu cun cussa istèrrida. Gasi s'at a pòdere culumare unu bòidu chi non si podet transire. B'est galu una minoràntzia chi impreat una forma de iscritura etimològica e taliorta idiosincràtica (pròpriu pro aunire connotu e modernidade). No est una abertura manna, ma est unu sinnale pro chie ancora non sighit sas règulas prus difùndida de acudire suta sa matessi cobertura de sas regulas generales chi megamus de assentare. Unu passu a dae in antis. Una proa de disponibilidade e cunsideru. Astore grogu (cuntierra) 21:48, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Gràtzias a ambus po is cumentus. In s'interis, m'est bènniu a conca chi ddoi funt topònimus cun nòmini ufitziali in sardu e ddoi est giai stètia innoi una cuntierra mala ca un'impitadori boliat scriri Biddaxidru e no Biddacidru comenti su comunu etotu at sceberau. A sa fòrmula de @L2212 siat a podi agiungi una cosa che "Si su topònimu tenet unu nòmine ufitziale, si depet impreare custu". A custu puntu tenit sentidu a partziri s'arrègula in duas -12:52, 5 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Pro mene andat bene. Sa règula sighida finas a como pro sos topònimos de sas biddas fiat nùmene ufitziale > nùmene impreadu in su logu (chirchende in su situ de su comune, de s'isportellu limba sarda locale o in locandinas/documentos locales > àteros nùmenes. L2212 (cuntierra) 20:28, 9 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Last days to vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to remind you that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) charter will close on 2 February 2024. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:00, 31 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Artìculu de su mese pro Freàrgiu

Salude a totus, ite artìculu ponimus, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 21:59, 31 Ghe 2024 (CET)

Ita ndi narais de Gino Frogheri? Fait is annus sa cida chi benit e mi parit una manera bella de ddu festai --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:57, 1 Fre 2024 (CET)

Po mei andat beni. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 10:58, 3 Fre 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L2212 (cuntierra) 20:41, 3 Fre 2024 (CET)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 19:24, 12 Fre 2024 (CET)

Artìculu de su mese pro Martzu

Salude a totus, ite bolides pònnere pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 22:12, 27 Fre 2024 (CET)

Salude. Deo so pro rick and morty! Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 22:34, 1 Mar 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias! L2212 (cuntierra) 21:58, 4 Mar 2024 (CET)

Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024: We are back!

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Hello, dear Wikipedians!

Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the forth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 1st until 31st March 2024. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contribution in every language! The most active contesters will receive prizes.

We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! ValentynNefedov (WMUA) (talk)

Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available

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Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 17:25, 5 Mar 2024 (CET)

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

• May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
• June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
• June-August 2024: Campaign period
• End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
• October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
• Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.

Election Volunteers

Another way to be involved with the 2024 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page.

Best regards,

Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Results#Elected

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.

MPossoupe_(WMF)20:57, 12 Mar 2024 (CET)

Your wiki will be in read-only soon

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The Wikimedia Foundation will switch the traffic between its data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster.

All traffic will switch on 20 March. The test will start at 14:00 UTC.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

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This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

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Artìculu de su mese pro Abrile

Salude a totus, Ite bolides isseberare, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:35, 27 Mar 2024 (CET)

Saludi. Ita ndi narais de Mozilla Firefox? Est de diora chi no poneus un'artìculu in campu sientìficu/tecnològicu e est un'annu chi est a disponimentu sa tradutzioni sarda. --PNNu (cuntierra) 09:49, 29 Mar 2024 (CET)

Saludi, po mei andat beni. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 11:59, 29 Mar 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos!--L2212 (cuntierra) 23:48, 2 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Vote now to select members of the first U4C

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Dear all,

I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 22:20, 25 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro Maju

Salude a totus, e bona Die de sa Sardigna!. A parre bostru ite diamus dèpere pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 21:22, 28 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Salude @L2212, amus agiuntu argumentos noos medas! Deu propòngio Ordinamentu giurìdicu. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 19:34, 29 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Perfetu, bolia proponni deu puru unu de custus nous de deretu. --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:37, 30 Abr 2024 (CEST)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L2212 (cuntierra) 20:50, 1 Maj 2024 (CEST)

Sign up for the language community meeting on May 31st, 16:00 UTC

Hello all,

The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks - May 31st at 16:00 UTC. If you're interested, you can sign up on this wiki page.

This is a participant-driven meeting, where we share language-specific updates related to various projects, collectively discuss technical issues related to language wikis, and work together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, the topics included the machine translation service (MinT) and the languages and models it currently supports, localization efforts from the Kiwix team, and technical challenges with numerical sorting in files used on Bengali Wikisource.

Do you have any ideas for topics to share technical updates related to your project? Any problems that you would like to bring for discussion during the meeting? Do you need interpretation support from English to another language? Please reach out to me at ssethi(__AT__)wikimedia.org and add agenda items to the document here.

We look forward to your participation!

MediaWiki message delivery 23:22, 14 Maj 2024 (CEST)

Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle

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Dear community members,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.

You can find the details on this page, as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on June 23, 2024, anywhere on Earth.

You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.

On behalf of the CAC,

RamzyM (WMF) 04:26, 22 Maj 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro làmpadas

Salude a totus. Ite diais bòlere pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 17:37, 26 Maj 2024 (CEST)

Si no ddoi funt àteras ideas, su cunsillu miu est de sighi cun sa stòria de Sardìnnia. Sa parti chi iat a benni apustis de Judicadu sardu iat a essi Istòria de Sardigna sennorile e comunale chi no est in sa lista ma chi mi parit bonu. --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:38, 4 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Saludi e iscusai po trigai a arraspondi. Istòria de Sardigna sennorile e comunale po mei andat beni. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 16:40, 9 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L'apo a pònnere como. L2212 (cuntierra) 21:35, 10 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Announcing the first Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello,

The scrutineers have finished reviewing the vote results. We are following up with the results of the first Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election.

We are pleased to announce the following individuals as regional members of the U4C, who will fulfill a two-year term:

• North America (USA and Canada)
  • –
• Northern and Western Europe
  • Ghilt
• Latin America and Caribbean
  • –
• Central and East Europe (CEE)
  • —
• Sub-Saharan Africa
  • –
• Middle East and North Africa
  • Ibrahim.ID
• East, South East Asia and Pacific (ESEAP)
  • 0xDeadbeef
• South Asia
  • –

The following individuals are elected to be community-at-large members of the U4C, fulfilling a one-year term:

• Barkeep49
• Superpes15
• Civvì
• Luke081515
• –
• –
• –
• –

Thank you again to everyone who participated in this process and much appreciation to the candidates for your leadership and dedication to the Wikimedia movement and community.

Over the next few weeks, the U4C will begin meeting and planning the 2024-25 year in supporting the implementation and review of the UCoC and Enforcement Guidelines. Follow their work on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 10:15, 3 Làm 2024 (CEST)

The final text of the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now on Meta

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Hi everyone,

The final text of the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now up on Meta in more than 20 languages for your reading.

What is the Wikimedia Movement Charter?

The Wikimedia Movement Charter is a proposed document to define roles and responsibilities for all the members and entities of the Wikimedia movement, including the creation of a new body – the Global Council – for movement governance.

Join the Wikimedia Movement Charter “Launch Party”

Join the “Launch Party” on June 20, 2024 at 14.00-15.00 UTC (your local time). During this call, we will celebrate the release of the final Charter and present the content of the Charter. Join and learn about the Charter before casting your vote.

Movement Charter ratification vote

Voting will commence on SecurePoll on June 25, 2024 at 00:01 UTC and will conclude on July 9, 2024 at 23:59 UTC. You can read more about the voting process, eligibility criteria, and other details on Meta.

If you have any questions, please leave a comment on the Meta talk page or email the MCDC at mcdc@wikimedia.org.

On behalf of the MCDC,

RamzyM (WMF) 10:44, 11 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now open – cast your vote

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Hello everyone,

The voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now open. The Wikimedia Movement Charter is a document to define roles and responsibilities for all the members and entities of the Wikimedia movement, including the creation of a new body – the Global Council – for movement governance.

The final version of the Wikimedia Movement Charter is available on Meta in different languages and attached here in PDF format for your reading.

Voting commenced on SecurePoll on June 25, 2024 at 00:01 UTC and will conclude on July 9, 2024 at 23:59 UTC. Please read more on the voter information and eligibility details.

After reading the Charter, please vote here and share this note further.

If you have any questions about the ratification vote, please contact the Charter Electoral Commission at cec@wikimedia.org.

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RamzyM (WMF) 12:52, 25 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro Trìulas

Salude a totus! Ite pensades chi diat èssere mègius a pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:34, 30 Làm 2024 (CEST)

Salude, deo propòngio custu: Raimondo Carta Raspi. Si calincunu tenet una bidea megius, andat bene etotu. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 18:15, 5 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Ab, gràtzias medas! L'apo a pònnere cras. L2212 (cuntierra) 01:31, 10 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is ending soon

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Hello everyone,

This is a kind reminder that the voting period to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter will be closed on July 9, 2024, at 23:59 UTC.

If you have not voted yet, please vote on SecurePoll.

On behalf of the Charter Electoral Commission,

RamzyM (WMF) 05:45, 8 Trì 2024 (CEST)

U4C Special Election - Call for Candidates

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Hello all,

A special election has been called to fill additional vacancies on the U4C. The call for candidates phase is open from now through July 19, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications in the special election for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

In this special election, according to chapter 2 of the U4C charter, there are 9 seats available on the U4C: four community-at-large seats and five regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement. No more than two members of the U4C can be elected from the same home wiki. Therefore, candidates must not have English Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, or Italian Wikipedia as their home wiki.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

In cooperation with the U4C,

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 02:03, 10 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting results

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Hello everyone,

After carefully tallying both individual and affiliate votes, the Charter Electoral Commission is pleased to announce the final results of the Wikimedia Movement Charter voting.  

As communicated by the Charter Electoral Commission, we reached the quorum for both Affiliate and individual votes by the time the vote closed on July 9, 23:59 UTC. We thank all 2,451 individuals and 129 Affiliate representatives who voted in the ratification process. Your votes and comments are invaluable for the future steps in Movement Strategy.

The final results of the Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting held between 25 June and 9 July 2024 are as follows:

Individual vote:

Out of 2,451 individuals who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 2,446 have been accepted as valid votes. Among these, 1,710 voted “yes”; 623 voted “no”; and 113 selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 73.30% voted to approve the Charter (1710/2333), while 26.70% voted to reject the Charter (623/2333).

Affiliates vote:

Out of 129 Affiliates designated voters who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 129 votes are confirmed as valid votes. Among these, 93 voted “yes”; 18 voted “no”; and 18 selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 83.78% voted to approve the Charter (93/111), while 16.22% voted to reject the Charter (18/111).

Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation:

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted not to ratify the proposed Charter during their special Board meeting on July 8, 2024. The Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, Nataliia Tymkiv, shared the result of the vote, the resolution, meeting minutes and proposed next steps.  

With this, the Wikimedia Movement Charter in its current revision is not ratified.

We thank you for your participation in this important moment in our movement’s governance.

The Charter Electoral Commission,

Abhinav619, Borschts, Iwuala Lucy, Tochiprecious, Der-Wir-Ing

MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 19:52, 18 Trì 2024 (CEST)

itWikiCon2024

Buongiorno, vi annuncio che si stanno chiudendo le opportunità per itWikiCon 2024, che quest'anno sarà a Padova!

Fino al 24 è possibile chiedere una borsa di partecipazione per coprire le spese, mentre fino al 26 è possibile fare proposte per il programma

Un saluto! -- Sciking (cuntierra) 20:05, 22 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Vote now to fill vacancies of the first U4C

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Dear all,

I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through August 10, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

In cooperation with the U4C,

RamzyM (WMF) 04:48, 27 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro Austu

Salude a totus! Ite bolides pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 20:08, 28 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Saludi a totus. Propòngiu Su Printzipeddu, ca s'autori est sparèssiu su 31 de argiolas de su 1944. Ocannu funt 80 annus. --PNNu (cuntierra) 15:59, 29 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Saludi, po mei andat beni! Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 22:28, 30 Trì 2024 (CEST)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L2212 (cuntierra) 21:36, 1 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Reminder! Vote closing soon to fill vacancies of the first U4C

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Dear all,

The voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is closing soon. It is open through 10 August 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility. If you are eligible to vote and have not voted in this special election, it is important that you vote now.

Why should you vote? The U4C is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community input into the committee membership is critical to the success of the UCoC.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

In cooperation with the U4C,

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:31, 6 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Coming soon: A new sub-referencing feature – try it!

Hello. For many years, community members have requested an easy way to re-use references with different details. Now, a MediaWiki solution is coming: The new sub-referencing feature will work for wikitext and Visual Editor and will enhance the existing reference system. You can continue to use different ways of referencing, but you will probably encounter sub-references in articles written by other users. More information on the project page.

We want your feedback to make sure this feature works well for you:

• Please try the current state of development on beta wiki and let us know what you think.
• Sign up here to get updates and/or invites to participate in user research activities.

Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team is planning to bring this feature to Wikimedia wikis later this year. We will reach out to creators/maintainers of tools and templates related to references beforehand.

Please help us spread the message. --Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Sign up for the language community meeting on August 30th, 15:00 UTC

Hi all,

The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks—on August 30th at 15:00 UTC. If you're interested in joining, you can sign up on this wiki page.

This participant-driven meeting will focus on sharing language-specific updates related to various projects, discussing technical issues related to language wikis, and working together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, topics included the Language Converter, the state of language research, updates on the Incubator conversations, and technical challenges around external links not working with special characters on Bengali sites.

Do you have any ideas for topics to share technical updates or discuss challenges? Please add agenda items to the document here and reach out to ssethi(__AT__)wikimedia.org. We look forward to your participation!

MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 01:19, 23 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Neologismus de averiguai

Saludi a totus. Apu notau unas cantu pàginas chi impreant neologismus chi no apu mai atopau a foras de innoi. Deu seu sèmpiri a favori de is neologismus in lìngua sarda, ma creu chi in sa Wikipedia siat mellus a impreai is fueddus chi is sardòfonus etotu impreant, asinuncas acabaus cun unu ditzionàriu totu nostu chi nemus connoscit. Duncas iat a essi pretzisu a circai testus innui s'impreant custu fueddus e ponni una nota o a circai alternativas. Bosàterus comenti dda pensais? Is chi apu agatau finas a imoi funt:

• Autoposada (àrea de servìtziu)
• Repetidorzu (EN: all you can eat)
• Medianerismu (IT: caporalato)
• Faeddòfonu (IT: citofono - po custu forsis est mellus s'àtera proposta, interfonu, giai chi est unu fueddu prus internatzionali).

M'iat a praxi a ligi su parri de @L2212, @Matafalluga e de @Vernel222 chi at traballau a una pariga de cussas pàginas, si no a totus. --PNNu (cuntierra) 17:59, 27 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Pro mene andant bene, so paraulas chi apo bidu impreadas dae medas in sos ùrtimos 20-25 annos. De àtera banda, "autoposada" no currespondet a s'italianu "area de servizio" si nono a "autogrill". Eu pesso chi siat importante formare noulozismos si cherimus chi su sardu siat una limba moderna a beru, est craru chi sos noulozismos narados devent esser de calidade. S'"interfonu" est prus su telèfonu internu de un'impresa, in frantzesu "citofono" si narat "parlophone", duncas in sardu pro mene podet andare bene "faeddòfonu". Custas naturarmente sunt opiniones meas, onzi unu est liberu de impreare sas paraulas chi cherzat finamentras a cando su sardu non tenzat un'istandard atzetadu dae totu. Vernel222 (cuntierra) 18:41, 27 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Saludi, pro nàrrer sa beridade, no apo pòdidu agatare nudda a pitzu de custos faeddos. Una pariga de annos faghet mi so postu a nd'assentare unos cantos de custos artìculos, a coa mi nde so acatadu, ca non s'agatant mitzas. Chi a diaderus s'agatant custos faeddos bene meda, però est pretzisu a nde pònnere is riferimentos, a su mancu sa tzitatzione de unu testu in ue su faeddu est usadu. Neologismos tocat a nde fàghere de manera de fàghere isvilupare sa limba, diat mancare, pero no est custa sa sede pro ddos imbentare, annotamala est contra de is règulas de Wikipedia. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 21:03, 29 Aus 2024 (CEST)

Salude, deo so de acordu cun @Mattafalluga e @PNNu, sos neologismos sunt fundamentales ma a dolu mannu non nos podimus pònnere nois a los creare comente artìculos, tocat a atzapare una fonte. Chi poi, sende chi in sardu b'at unu nùmeru limitadu de fontes cunfronta a àteras limbas prus ispainadas, non penso chi bi bògiat tropu; diat bastare fintzas petzi un'artìculu de giornale chi los impreet (podimus proare a chircare in sos sitos de Limba Sarda 2.0, Istòrias, Il Minuto o àteros chi pùblicant in sardu) o una paja de publicatziones in àteros sitos. S'importante est chi non siat pròpiu petzi inoghe. Pro los iscrìere in intro de sos artìculos dedicados a àteru est giai una cosa diferente, a parre meu, ca si nono si pròpiu non b'at una galu una paràula isseberada in sardu pro esprìmere una cosa e nos serbit a lu fàghere, ite faghimus? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:24, 2 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Seu de acòrdiu fintzas deu chi bastit una fonti giornalìstica o unu lìburu. Mellus si est una fonti afidàbili (un'autori cun una reputatzioni, naraus, asinuncas chinisisiat si podit imbentai is fueddus?). Si su fueddu est in unu ditzionàriu mellus ancora. Est una chistioni cumplicada chi eus a depiu biri in manera separada candu atopaus su problema, a bisu miu.

Candu su fueddu est in mesu a s'artìculu e no su sugetu etotu creu chi ddoi siat unu pagheddu de libertadi in prus. Deu circu esemprus in àteras lìnguas e m'arràngiu cun adatamentus. Candu apu furriau Ford Model T apu atopau "rotismi epicicloidali", chi apu furriau a "ingranàgios planetàrios", lassendi puru "(o epitzicloidales)", ca ambos fueddus funt impreaus a livellu internatzionali e duncas benit beni a adatai puru in sardu. Si poi una dii calincunu scriit unu lìburu/ditzionàriu de mecànica apu a essi cuntentu de ddu pigai a mòlliu. --PNNu (cuntierra) 12:19, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Announcing the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

The scrutineers have finished reviewing the vote and the Elections Committee have certified the results for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) special election.

I am pleased to announce the following individual as regional members of the U4C, who will fulfill a term until 15 June 2026:

• North America (USA and Canada)
  • Ajraddatz

The following seats were not filled during this special election:

• Latin America and Caribbean
• Central and East Europe (CEE)
• Sub-Saharan Africa
• South Asia
• The four remaining Community-At-Large seats

Thank you again to everyone who participated in this process and much appreciation to the candidates for your leadership and dedication to the Wikimedia movement and community.

Over the next few weeks, the U4C will begin meeting and planning the 2024-25 year in supporting the implementation and review of the UCoC and Enforcement Guidelines. You can follow their work on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the U4C and the Elections Committee,

RamzyM (WMF) 16:06, 2 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro Cabudanni

Salude a totus, e iscusade pro su ritardu! Ite bolides pònnere, pro custu mese? L2212 (cuntierra) 23:25, 2 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Fia pensendi a Guido Colucci po una chistioni de datas, si no ddoi funt mellus ideas. -PNNu (cuntierra) 17:41, 11 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Ab, gràtzias! L2212 (cuntierra) 19:45, 11 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Have your say: Vote for the 2024 Board of Trustees!

Hello all,

The voting period for the 2024 Board of Trustees election is now open. There are twelve (12) candidates running for four (4) seats on the Board.

Learn more about the candidates by reading their statements and their answers to community questions.

When you are ready, go to the SecurePoll voting page to vote. The vote is open from September 3rd at 00:00 UTC to September 17th at 23:59 UTC.

To check your voter eligibility, please visit the voter eligibility page.

Best regards,

The Elections Committee and Board Selection Working Group

MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 14:14, 3 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Your wiki will be in read-only soon

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The Wikimedia Foundation will switch the traffic between its data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster.

All traffic will switch on 25 September. The switch will start at 15:00 UTC.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. This banner will remain visible until the end of the operation.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Wednesday 25 September 2024.
• If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
• We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
• GitLab will be unavailable for about 90 minutes.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule.

Please share this information with your community.

Trizek_(WMF), 11:37, 20 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Artìculu de su mese pro Santugaine

Salude a totus! Ite artìculu bolides pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? L2212 (cuntierra) 20:52, 26 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Sende chi nissunu at rispostu, apo a pònnere Pianificadore (informàtica) ca est su primu de sa lista. L2212 (cuntierra) 20:44, 6 Stg 2024 (CEST)

'Wikidata item' link is moving. Find out where...

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Hello everyone, a small change will soon be coming to the user-interface of your Wikimedia project. The Wikidata item sitelink currently found under the General section of the Tools sidebar menu will move into the In Other Projects section.

We would like the Wiki communities feedback so please let us know or ask questions on the Discussion page before we enable the change which can take place October 4 2024, circa 15:00 UTC+2. More information can be found on the project page.

We welcome your feedback and questions.
MediaWiki message delivery (cuntierra) 20:57, 27 Cab 2024 (CEST)

Invitation to Participate in Wiki Loves Ramadan Community Engagement Survey

Dear all,

Apologies for writing in English. Please help to translate in your language. We are excited to announce the upcoming Wiki Loves Ramadan event, a global initiative aimed at celebrating Ramadan by enriching Wikipedia and its sister projects with content related to this significant time of year. As we plan to organize this event globally, your insights and experiences are crucial in shaping the best possible participation experience for the community.

To ensure that Wiki Loves Ramadan is engaging, inclusive, and impactful, we kindly invite you to participate in our community engagement survey. Your feedback will help us understand the needs of the community, set the event's focus, and guide our strategies for organizing this global event.

Survey link: https://forms[dot]gle/f66MuzjcPpwzVymu5

Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts. Your input will make a difference!

Thank you for being a part of our journey to make Wiki Loves Ramadan a success.

Warm regards,

User:ZI Jony 05:20, 6 Stg 2024 (CEST)

Wiki Loves Ramadan Organizing Team

Preliminary results of the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections

Hello all,

Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election. Close to 6000 community members from more than 180 wiki projects have voted.

The following four candidates were the most voted:

1. Christel Steigenberger
2. Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz
3. Victoria Doronina
4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the vote, they still need to be appointed to the Board of Trustees. They need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. New trustees will be appointed at the next Board meeting in December 2024.

Learn more about the results on Meta-Wiki.

Best regards,

The Elections Committee and Board Selection Working Group

MPossoupe_(WMF) 10:25, 14 Stg 2024 (CEST)

Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees

Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers.

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:

• Affiliations Committee (AffCom)
• Ombuds commission (OC)
• Case Review Committee (CRC)

Applications for the committees open on 16 October 2024. Applications for the Affiliations Committee close on 18 November 2024, and applications for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on 2 December 2024. Learn how to apply by visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki. Post to the talk page or email cst@wikimedia.org with any questions you may have.

For the Committee Support team,

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 01:08, 17 Stg 2024 (CEST)

'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally.

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the Wikidata item sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the General section into the In Other Projects section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. Please let us know if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -Danny Benjafield (WMDE) 13:29, 22 Stg 2024 (CEST)

Final Reminder: Join us in Making Wiki Loves Ramadan Success

Dear all,

We’re thrilled to announce the Wiki Loves Ramadan event, a global initiative to celebrate Ramadan by enhancing Wikipedia and its sister projects with valuable content related to this special time of year. As we organize this event globally, we need your valuable input to make it a memorable experience for the community.

Last Call to Participate in Our Survey: To ensure that Wiki Loves Ramadan is inclusive and impactful, we kindly request you to complete our community engagement survey. Your feedback will shape the event’s focus and guide our organizing strategies to better meet community needs.

• Survey Link: Complete the Survey
• Deadline: November 10, 2024

Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts. Your input will truly make a difference!

Volunteer Opportunity: Join the Wiki Loves Ramadan Team! We’re seeking dedicated volunteers for key team roles essential to the success of this initiative. If you’re interested in volunteer roles, we invite you to apply.

• Application Link: Apply Here
• Application Deadline: October 31, 2024

Explore Open Positions: For a detailed list of roles and their responsibilities, please refer to the position descriptions here: Position Descriptions

Thank you for being part of this journey. We look forward to working together to make Wiki Loves Ramadan a success!

Warm regards,
The Wiki Loves Ramadan Organizing Team 06:12, 29 Stg 2024 (CET)

Artìculu de su mese pro Santandria

Salude, e iscusade pro su ritardu. Ite artìculu ponimus, pro custu mese? L2212 (cuntierra) 00:11, 4 Std 2024 (CET)

Saludi. Sceberu difìcili. Open Library? --PNNu (cuntierra) 23:36, 4 Std 2024 (CET)

Saludi, po mei andat beni. Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 23:56, 4 Std 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L2212 (cuntierra) 20:03, 8 Std 2024 (CET)

Sign up for the language community meeting on November 29th, 16:00 UTC

Hello everyone,

The next language community meeting is coming up next week, on November 29th, at 16:00 UTC (Zonestamp! For your timezone <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1732896000>). If you're interested in joining, you can sign up on this wiki page: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Language_and_Product_Localization/Community_meetings#29_November_2024>.

This participant-driven meeting will be organized by the Wikimedia Foundation’s Language Product Localization team and the Language Diversity Hub. There will be presentations on topics like developing language keyboards, the creation of the Moore Wikipedia, and the language support track at Wiki Indaba. We will also have members from the Wayuunaiki community joining us to share their experiences with the Incubator and as a new community within our movement. This meeting will have a Spanish interpretation.

Looking forward to seeing you at the language community meeting! Cheers, Srishti 20:54, 21 Std 2024 (CET)

Artìculu de su mese pro Nadale

Salude a totus! Ite artìculu bolides pònnere, pro custu mese? L2212 (cuntierra) 21:04, 1 Nad 2024 (CET)

Salude, cun totu su chi est suntzedendi tocat a cricai cosa ligera po su mesi de paschighedda... Giai ca es festa po pipius, ita ndi narais de Beatrix Potter? Passai una bona chida! Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 14:38, 2 Nad 2024 (CET)

Saludi a totus. Po mei andat beni --PNNu (cuntierra) 21:33, 3 Nad 2024 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos! L2212 (cuntierra) 21:52, 4 Nad 2024 (CET)

Rapporto tra le comunità dei progetti e Wikimedia Italia

Ciao, vorrei segnalarvi che sul bar di Wikipedia in italiano è in corso una discussione sul rapporto tra la comunità e l'associazione Wikimedia Italia e come farlo evolvere. Ci piacerebbe che tutte le comunità wiki* italofone e delle lingue sorelle partecipassero, anche se per questa volta siamo ospiti del bar di Wikipedia in italiano. Vi invito caldamente ad esprimere il vostro punto di vista. Grazie, --Ferdi2005_(talk) 01:21, 18 Nad 2024 (CET)

Artìculu pro Ghennàrgiu

Salude a totus, ite bolides pònnere, pro su mese chi intrat? In sos ùrtimos tres annos amus postu s'artìculu subra de s'annu in antis , duncas in custu casu 2024. A mie diat andare bene, bois seis de acordu? L2212 (cuntierra) 22:44, 31 Nad 2024 (CET)

Salude e augùrios de unu annu nou bonu! Fintzas pro mene 2024 andat bene. @PNNu dd'at fintzas acontzadu is ùrtimas dies pro ddu tènner bellu che prontu (gràtzias!). Comente totu disigiades pro su 2025! Mattafalluga (cuntierra) 20:00, 1 Ghe 2025 (CET)

Saludi e augùrius a totus. Po mei andat beni etotu. --PNNu (cuntierra) 22:00, 1 Ghe 2025 (CET)

Ab, gràtzias a ambos e augùrios mannos fintzas a bois! L2212 (cuntierra) 17:07, 4 Ghe 2025 (CET)